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11-22-2008, 10:43 AM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
I have had Vista for almost 2 years but this message just recently started
appearing. I have read virtually all of the posts (including the 10/10/07
Windows Mail threads) and thank everyone for their information.
However, when I go to Tools - Options (I assume that means Internet Options,
as that is the only Options I see) and then Advanced, I do not have anything
anywhere that says Maintenance.
On the Advanced tab page I see the "Settings" window with a scroll down, and
then buttons for "Restore advanced settings" and "Reset."
Thoughts?
Scott
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> By default, that compaction prompt will appear after every 100 closings.
> You can adjust the frequency: Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAC3861F-4B4F-4CE5-98FF-4EE6F6611DB3@microsoft.com...
> > ok have compacted it" I take it I willnot receive3 this message again for
> > some time?
> >
> > "Dave" wrote:
> >
> >> Let it compact it.
> >> The message store is a file that keeps track of the messages, what folder
> >> they're in, etc.
> >> When you delete a message, the message store still contains data about it,
> >> but not the message itself.
> >> When you do the compaction, the data about the deleted messages is removed
> >> from the message store, and the space is reclaimed.
> >> It does nothing to the messages.
> >>
> >> By default, it does this every 100th shutdown. You can change the frequency
> >> in
> >> Tools -Options - Advanced - Maintenance
> >> I changed mine to 4, as I seldom shutdown the mail program.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >>
> >>
> >> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9B63212E-95ED-4A6C-AD08-E62DC35B6A4F@microsoft.com...
> >> > tI have recently started getting "WINDOWS MAIL CAN COMPACT THE MESSAGE
> >> > STORE.
> >> > THIS MAY TAKE UP TO A FEW MINUTES" so farI have just clicked CANCEL, is
> >> > this okay to do? If so how do I stop this message appearing?
> >> > thanks
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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11-22-2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
Why are you looking at Internet Explorer screens?
This issue is about the Windows Mail program, not Internet Explorer.
--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
"sdw" <sdw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news  9C038CC-AD05-4FF8-A98A-76A90A310A1C@microsoft.com...
>I have had Vista for almost 2 years but this message just recently started
> appearing. I have read virtually all of the posts (including the 10/10/07
> Windows Mail threads) and thank everyone for their information.
>
> However, when I go to Tools - Options (I assume that means Internet Options,
> as that is the only Options I see) and then Advanced, I do not have anything
> anywhere that says Maintenance.
>
> On the Advanced tab page I see the "Settings" window with a scroll down, and
> then buttons for "Restore advanced settings" and "Reset."
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> By default, that compaction prompt will appear after every 100 closings.
>> You can adjust the frequency: Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>>
>>
>> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAC3861F-4B4F-4CE5-98FF-4EE6F6611DB3@microsoft.com...
>> > ok have compacted it" I take it I willnot receive3 this message again for
>> > some time?
>> >
>> > "Dave" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Let it compact it.
>> >> The message store is a file that keeps track of the messages, what folder
>> >> they're in, etc.
>> >> When you delete a message, the message store still contains data about it,
>> >> but not the message itself.
>> >> When you do the compaction, the data about the deleted messages is removed
>> >> from the message store, and the space is reclaimed.
>> >> It does nothing to the messages.
>> >>
>> >> By default, it does this every 100th shutdown. You can change the frequency
>> >> in
>> >> Tools -Options - Advanced - Maintenance
>> >> I changed mine to 4, as I seldom shutdown the mail program.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
>> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:9B63212E-95ED-4A6C-AD08-E62DC35B6A4F@microsoft.com...
>> >> > tI have recently started getting "WINDOWS MAIL CAN COMPACT THE MESSAGE
>> >> > STORE.
>> >> > THIS MAY TAKE UP TO A FEW MINUTES" so farI have just clicked CANCEL, is
>> >> > this okay to do? If so how do I stop this message appearing?
>> >> > thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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11-23-2008, 01:41 AM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
"T" <ludwig-t@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:B4C6119D-8136-4ABE-BFB9-55946D586A24@microsoft.com...
> "sdw",
> While you are in your windows mail, click
> Tools/Options/Advanced/Maintenance(near the bottom) and click on it. Now
> look for the "compact the database on shutdown every (list a number)
> runs".
> Since seeing your problem, I've noticed the same thing happening in mine
> that I chose to compact after so many runs. Mail to my inbox disappears.
> Hmmm. So, even though it is checked "every 100 runs", it wanted to
> compact
> while I'd be in the middle of answering emails! Crazy. It is now
> UNchecked. I'll do my own compacting when I'm ready.
>
If mail to your inbox is disappearing the culprit is much more likely to be
that you still have your antivirus program scanning the mail which virtually
no one reccomends now. Its best to uninstall the module completely.
Windows mail needs to compact to work properly. It only runs on closing the
program so wont interupt anything you are working on (other than that
annoying pop up flashing at you). Also you should be saving any important
emails to your own folders with preferably a copy in your documents to be
included in your regular back ups.
How are you going to "do your own compacting??" Deleting the unwanted files
doesnt do what compacting does??
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11-23-2008, 10:18 AM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
You are right, Spikey. I can't do my own compacting like I thought I could.
Seems like we had that option in XP, didn't we? I do have avg set to not
scan incoming/outgoing mail. I do save important emails to my own folder.
Sorry for my mixup. :-)
Hugs,
Teresa
"Spikey" <.> wrote in message news:O8taRtQTJHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
"T" <ludwig-t@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:B4C6119D-8136-4ABE-BFB9-55946D586A24@microsoft.com...
> "sdw",
> While you are in your windows mail, click
> Tools/Options/Advanced/Maintenance(near the bottom) and click on it. Now
> look for the "compact the database on shutdown every (list a number)
> runs".
> Since seeing your problem, I've noticed the same thing happening in mine
> that I chose to compact after so many runs. Mail to my inbox disappears.
> Hmmm. So, even though it is checked "every 100 runs", it wanted to
> compact
> while I'd be in the middle of answering emails! Crazy. It is now
> UNchecked. I'll do my own compacting when I'm ready.
>
If mail to your inbox is disappearing the culprit is much more likely to be
that you still have your antivirus program scanning the mail which virtually
no one reccomends now. Its best to uninstall the module completely.
Windows mail needs to compact to work properly. It only runs on closing the
program so wont interupt anything you are working on (other than that
annoying pop up flashing at you). Also you should be saving any important
emails to your own folders with preferably a copy in your documents to be
included in your regular back ups.
How are you going to "do your own compacting??" Deleting the unwanted files
doesnt do what compacting does??
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11-23-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
Thank you. Scott
"Spikey" wrote:
>
> "sdw" <sdw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news 9C038CC-AD05-4FF8-A98A-76A90A310A1C@microsoft.com...
> >I have had Vista for almost 2 years but this message just recently started
> > appearing. I have read virtually all of the posts (including the 10/10/07
> > Windows Mail threads) and thank everyone for their information.
> >
> > However, when I go to Tools - Options (I assume that means Internet
> > Options,
> > as that is the only Options I see) and then Advanced, I do not have
> > anything
> > anywhere that says Maintenance.
> >
>
> Its under tools- options - advanced tab in Windows mail.
>
>
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11-23-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
I apologize. I was confused as I have never used (even opened until this
morning) Windows Mail but this popup window being discussed started (and
keeps) coming up very recently and I clicked on the, I think help link, and
it brought me to this discussion group. Scott
"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> Why are you looking at Internet Explorer screens?
> This issue is about the Windows Mail program, not Internet Explorer.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "sdw" <sdw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news 9C038CC-AD05-4FF8-A98A-76A90A310A1C@microsoft.com...
> >I have had Vista for almost 2 years but this message just recently started
> > appearing. I have read virtually all of the posts (including the 10/10/07
> > Windows Mail threads) and thank everyone for their information.
> >
> > However, when I go to Tools - Options (I assume that means Internet Options,
> > as that is the only Options I see) and then Advanced, I do not have anything
> > anywhere that says Maintenance.
> >
> > On the Advanced tab page I see the "Settings" window with a scroll down, and
> > then buttons for "Restore advanced settings" and "Reset."
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> By default, that compaction prompt will appear after every 100 closings.
> >> You can adjust the frequency: Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:CAC3861F-4B4F-4CE5-98FF-4EE6F6611DB3@microsoft.com...
> >> > ok have compacted it" I take it I willnot receive3 this message again for
> >> > some time?
> >> >
> >> > "Dave" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Let it compact it.
> >> >> The message store is a file that keeps track of the messages, what folder
> >> >> they're in, etc.
> >> >> When you delete a message, the message store still contains data about it,
> >> >> but not the message itself.
> >> >> When you do the compaction, the data about the deleted messages is removed
> >> >> from the message store, and the space is reclaimed.
> >> >> It does nothing to the messages.
> >> >>
> >> >> By default, it does this every 100th shutdown. You can change the frequency
> >> >> in
> >> >> Tools -Options - Advanced - Maintenance
> >> >> I changed mine to 4, as I seldom shutdown the mail program.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> >> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:9B63212E-95ED-4A6C-AD08-E62DC35B6A4F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > tI have recently started getting "WINDOWS MAIL CAN COMPACT THE MESSAGE
> >> >> > STORE.
> >> >> > THIS MAY TAKE UP TO A FEW MINUTES" so farI have just clicked CANCEL, is
> >> >> > this okay to do? If so how do I stop this message appearing?
> >> >> > thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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11-23-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
Thank you. Scott
"T" wrote:
> "sdw",
> While you are in your windows mail, click
> Tools/Options/Advanced/Maintenance(near the bottom) and click on it. Now
> look for the "compact the database on shutdown every (list a number) runs".
> Since seeing your problem, I've noticed the same thing happening in mine
> that I chose to compact after so many runs. Mail to my inbox disappears.
> Hmmm. So, even though it is checked "every 100 runs", it wanted to compact
> while I'd be in the middle of answering emails! Crazy. It is now
> UNchecked. I'll do my own compacting when I'm ready.
>
> Hope that helped?
>
> Just a new vista user,
> Teresa
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" <Gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:eXoK7%23MTJHA.584@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Why are you looking at Internet Explorer screens?
> This issue is about the Windows Mail program, not Internet Explorer.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
>
>
> "sdw" <sdw@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news 9C038CC-AD05-4FF8-A98A-76A90A310A1C@microsoft.com...
> >I have had Vista for almost 2 years but this message just recently started
> > appearing. I have read virtually all of the posts (including the 10/10/07
> > Windows Mail threads) and thank everyone for their information.
> >
> > However, when I go to Tools - Options (I assume that means Internet
> > Options,
> > as that is the only Options I see) and then Advanced, I do not have
> > anything
> > anywhere that says Maintenance.
> >
> > On the Advanced tab page I see the "Settings" window with a scroll down,
> > and
> > then buttons for "Restore advanced settings" and "Reset."
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> By default, that compaction prompt will appear after every 100 closings.
> >> You can adjust the frequency: Tools, Options, Advanced, Maintenance.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
> >>
> >>
> >> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:CAC3861F-4B4F-4CE5-98FF-4EE6F6611DB3@microsoft.com...
> >> > ok have compacted it" I take it I willnot receive3 this message again
> >> > for
> >> > some time?
> >> >
> >> > "Dave" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Let it compact it.
> >> >> The message store is a file that keeps track of the messages, what
> >> >> folder
> >> >> they're in, etc.
> >> >> When you delete a message, the message store still contains data about
> >> >> it,
> >> >> but not the message itself.
> >> >> When you do the compaction, the data about the deleted messages is
> >> >> removed
> >> >> from the message store, and the space is reclaimed.
> >> >> It does nothing to the messages.
> >> >>
> >> >> By default, it does this every 100th shutdown. You can change the
> >> >> frequency
> >> >> in
> >> >> Tools -Options - Advanced - Maintenance
> >> >> I changed mine to 4, as I seldom shutdown the mail program.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Vista Home Premium 32 SP1
> >> >> http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "msiz" <msiz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:9B63212E-95ED-4A6C-AD08-E62DC35B6A4F@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > tI have recently started getting "WINDOWS MAIL CAN COMPACT THE
> >> >> > MESSAGE
> >> >> > STORE.
> >> >> > THIS MAY TAKE UP TO A FEW MINUTES" so farI have just clicked
> >> >> > CANCEL, is
> >> >> > this okay to do? If so how do I stop this message appearing?
> >> >> > thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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11-23-2008, 01:54 PM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
"T" <ludwig-t@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9438119C-1B42-4694-AEBE-CCF6A814F761@microsoft.com...
> You are right, Spikey. I can't do my own compacting like I thought I
> could.
> Seems like we had that option in XP, didn't we? I do have avg set to not
> scan incoming/outgoing mail. I do save important emails to my own folder.
> Sorry for my mixup. :-)
>
If you are still having problems its probably better to go offline, do a
full scan to be sure, then uninstall AVG and then do a custom install
without the email scanning module.
I think its something they should have left in. I'm feeling better about
Vista now, it does have some nice features as well.
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11-23-2008, 05:26 PM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
Thank you so much, Steve! I will try it out!
Hugs,
Teresa
"Steve Cochran" <scochran@oehelp.com> wrote in message
news:C24B6DFD-FDBF-463B-B3A8-F3AE757CEBE4@microsoft.com...
You can manually compact the database with my Windows Mail utility
( www.oehelp.com/WMUTil/)
steve
"T" <ludwig-t@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9438119C-1B42-4694-AEBE-CCF6A814F761@microsoft.com...
> You are right, Spikey. I can't do my own compacting like I thought I
> could.
> Seems like we had that option in XP, didn't we? I do have avg set to not
> scan incoming/outgoing mail. I do save important emails to my own folder.
> Sorry for my mixup. :-)
>
> Hugs,
> Teresa
>
> "Spikey" <.> wrote in message
> news:O8taRtQTJHA.4384@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "T" <ludwig-t@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:B4C6119D-8136-4ABE-BFB9-55946D586A24@microsoft.com...
>> "sdw",
>> While you are in your windows mail, click
>> Tools/Options/Advanced/Maintenance(near the bottom) and click on it. Now
>> look for the "compact the database on shutdown every (list a number)
>> runs".
>> Since seeing your problem, I've noticed the same thing happening in mine
>> that I chose to compact after so many runs. Mail to my inbox disappears.
>> Hmmm. So, even though it is checked "every 100 runs", it wanted to
>> compact
>> while I'd be in the middle of answering emails! Crazy. It is now
>> UNchecked. I'll do my own compacting when I'm ready.
>>
>
> If mail to your inbox is disappearing the culprit is much more likely to
> be
> that you still have your antivirus program scanning the mail which
> virtually
> no one reccomends now. Its best to uninstall the module completely.
>
> Windows mail needs to compact to work properly. It only runs on closing
> the
> program so wont interupt anything you are working on (other than that
> annoying pop up flashing at you). Also you should be saving any important
> emails to your own folders with preferably a copy in your documents to be
> included in your regular back ups.
>
> How are you going to "do your own compacting??" Deleting the unwanted
> files
> doesnt do what compacting does??
>
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11-23-2008, 05:26 PM
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Re: new compacting messages message!
Thank you, Spikey. I might have to do that. I'm going to try Steve
Cochran's utility, too.
Hugs,
Teresa
"Spikey" <.> wrote in message news:uccB$KXTJHA.5568@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
"T" <ludwig-t@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:9438119C-1B42-4694-AEBE-CCF6A814F761@microsoft.com...
> You are right, Spikey. I can't do my own compacting like I thought I
> could.
> Seems like we had that option in XP, didn't we? I do have avg set to not
> scan incoming/outgoing mail. I do save important emails to my own folder.
> Sorry for my mixup. :-)
>
If you are still having problems its probably better to go offline, do a
full scan to be sure, then uninstall AVG and then do a custom install
without the email scanning module.
I think its something they should have left in. I'm feeling better about
Vista now, it does have some nice features as well.
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